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Corruption - September 10, 2009 08:06 PM (GMT)
help mah team.gimme suggestions for movesets, items, etc. ...oh and im not posting the stats cuz i fucked up the EVs..oh and i need suggestions for the items to use

Metagross/Occa Berry/Clear Body

Stealth Rock
Explosion
Earthquake
Bullet Punch


Swampert/------/Torrent

Earthquake
Hammer Arm
Waterfall
Avalanche

Garchomp/Life Orb/Sand Veil

Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Claw

Lucario/ Life Orb/ Inner Focus

Stone Edge
Swords Dance
ExtremeSpeed
Close Combat

EDIT: well..i decided to drop infernape and breloom..cuz I just hate them.. :|

Two open spots, suggestions and stuff please. Oh and Also, I have a Darkrai that i will use when ubers are allowed.Rate/Comment/give tips

Darkrai/-----/Bad Dreams

Roar of Time
Dark Pulse
Dark Void
Dream Eater

Nellie Lovett - September 10, 2009 09:03 PM (GMT)
Occa Berry for Gross, and Leftovers for Swampy. You could also consider Waterfall instead of Stone Edge for secondary STAB.

Corruption - September 10, 2009 09:06 PM (GMT)
where can i get an occa berry though?

Nellie Lovett - September 10, 2009 09:20 PM (GMT)
Meh, I just found one by picking it somewhere. You could also get it from the Berry Master, just SR until he gives you one.

Corruption - September 12, 2009 04:04 PM (GMT)
yay i got the occa berry ^.^ and can a mod plz change the name of this thread to "Team Help"

Katra! - September 13, 2009 10:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Corruption @ Sep 12 2009, 09:04 AM)
yay i got the occa berry ^.^ and can a mod plz change the name of this thread to "Team Help"

Done and done, Cor.

arceusvoice - October 8, 2009 06:48 PM (GMT)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Scyther - October 8, 2009 07:15 PM (GMT)
Metagross look alright, just give it the Occa berry like Nellie said. If this is an in-game team though, you might want to mass farm Occa berries so you don't run out.

Infernape looks good, only thing I would change having Stone Edge on 4 different pokemon of yours. You might want to change it on one or two of them for something else, since you won't need it THAT much. Also, Life Orb works well on Infernape, but there's a bunch of other items that could work as well.

Swampert looks too offensive for a pokemon that stalls really well. Granted Swampert has really high attack, I would still try to swap something out for either a Substitute/Curse/Stealth Rock. Even protect works well to know what your opponent is using. Hammer arm probably isn't necessary with 4 other fighting type pokemon on your team. And like I said with Infernape, the Stone Edge on 3 pokemon isn't necessary. Also, like Nellie said, Waterfall is good physical STAB water move. Leftovers is always a good choice for Swamper to hold.

Switch one of your dragon attacks on Garchomp for Swords Dance. There's no need for two. I suggest getting rid of Dragon Rush for the horrid accuracy. Also the whole Stone Edge thing I mentioned before. Combine the Swords Dance with a Life Orb and your Garchomp will be great. However, Garchomp is considered uber, so I wouldn't try to use him in competitive play.

Your Lucario looks great, I wouldn't change anything about him unless you wanted to throw in 1 special attack like Aura Sphere to help counter physical walls like Skarmory. Also blah blah Stone Edge. Other than that, looks good all around.

Breloom would work better with the Poison Heal ability and a Toxic Orb, but if you don't have to option to do this then you can work with what you have. Spore would also be a great plus, but once again, if you don't have this option anymore, just work with what you have, which isn't all that bad.

Nellie Lovett - October 8, 2009 07:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

arceusvoice - October 8, 2009 08:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

Corruption - October 8, 2009 08:41 PM (GMT)
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..

Nellie Lovett - October 8, 2009 08:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

QUOTE
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..


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arceusvoice - October 8, 2009 08:49 PM (GMT)
Me too but it is a great combo with outrage due to outrage repeats til confusion, but maybe you can try with a life orb, or a metronome (i hate it)

Zero - October 8, 2009 11:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 04:43 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

QUOTE
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..


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Sheet music joke.

Nellie Lovett - October 8, 2009 11:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zero @ Oct 8 2009, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 04:43 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

QUOTE
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..


:||

user posted image

Sheet music joke.

ahaha! I play violin, so I get it. =)

Zero - October 9, 2009 01:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:52 PM)
QUOTE (Zero @ Oct 8 2009, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 04:43 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

QUOTE
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..


:||

user posted image

Sheet music joke.

ahaha! I play violin, so I get it. =)

Lol, glad you appreciated it.

CharizardKiller - October 9, 2009 06:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zero @ Oct 9 2009, 02:11 AM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:52 PM)
QUOTE (Zero @ Oct 8 2009, 11:34 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 04:43 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (Nellie Lovett @ Oct 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Oct 8 2009, 06:48 PM)
Why not outrage on garchomp? I know it confuses it but it has 120 power, and you can combo it with a choice band

Garchomp would work better with a scarf.

Whats the difference between the scarf and the band?

QUOTE
i think one of them raises sp attack and the other raises att..but idk which one is which...and i hate choice items..


:||

user posted image

Sheet music joke.

ahaha! I play violin, so I get it. =)

Lol, glad you appreciated it.

I get it as I used to play Clarinet! I lol'd!

Corruption - October 9, 2009 07:27 PM (GMT)
most intermediate music players would know what that symbol means

Corruption - November 4, 2009 11:34 PM (GMT)
Well I decided to drop Infernape and Breloom and get 2 new pokemen.

Give tips, comments, etc.

polar_inferno - November 7, 2009 06:56 PM (GMT)
some sort of wall or scout would do good, not sure which ones though

arceusvoice - November 7, 2009 08:56 PM (GMT)
maybe a ninjask or a yanmega

Nellie Lovett - November 7, 2009 09:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (arceusvoice @ Nov 7 2009, 08:56 PM)
maybe a ninjask or a yanmega

What, BP shit? Those things are too easily countered by Skarmory, Suicune, Swampert, and other bulky Roar/Whirlwind users.

Nellie Lovett - November 7, 2009 10:58 PM (GMT)
Well, there's no need to have two SDers on your team. I would suggest giving Lucario Choice Secs, since its SAtk is slightly better than its Atk.
Lucario@ Choice Specs
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Timid
-Aura Sphere
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Vacuum Wave/ Close Combat
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Not much to say about this set. Vacuum Wave is for Scarfed Heatrans, which are good counters for the Special Lucario. If Blissey is a problem, then you can go with Close Combat.

Corruption - November 7, 2009 11:03 PM (GMT)
I've found some pokemon i could use but i just need a good moveset..

Typhlosion, Staraptor, Luxray, Spiritomb, Blaziken, Roserade, and Cranidos

EDIT: also Aerodactyl

Nellie Lovett - November 7, 2009 11:08 PM (GMT)
As for the other two team members, I would go with Roserade and Gengar: Roserade can set up Spikes, getting in some extra residual damage, and Gengar can block any Rapid Spinners that try to blow away your pointed sticks Spikes and stones. Or you could go with Starmie or Foretress to spin away your opponent's pointed Spikes and Stones. But by the looks of you team, you won't be taking much from Stealth Rock.
Roserade@Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Calm
-Spikes/ Toxic Spikes
-Grass Knot
-Hidden Power [Fire]
-Stun Spore
252 HP / 136 SpD / 120 Spe

With both Grass Knot and HP Fire, no Stealth Rocker is left unaffected: Grass Knot takes care of Swampert and other bulky waters, while HP Fire massacres Foretress and the like.

As for Gengar:
Gengar@ Choice Scarf
Trait: Modest
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power [Ice]
-Trick

Gengar has great coverage, and with Trick it can really damage things like Blissey, who is a pretty common counter to Gengar, or pretty badly screw up bulky Rapid Spinners. If you want to kill Dragons, go with HP Ice. But it doesn't have much use outside of that.

Nellie Lovett - November 7, 2009 11:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Corruption @ Nov 7 2009, 11:03 PM)
Cranidos

lolwut

Corruption - November 7, 2009 11:13 PM (GMT)
Just saying, also, can you gimme a different pokemon out of the other pokemon listed because I cant find a gengar anywhere.. :..and I'm readying the roserade right now.

EDIT: wtf..according to Bulbapedia, roserade doesn't learn stun spore

Nellie Lovett - November 7, 2009 11:20 PM (GMT)
I starting writing that last post before you posted. K? :|
Roserade learns Stun Spore by leveling up. Probably in Platinum.



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